4 Going on 24!!! - Pawhuska,OK

Updated on August 02, 2010
M.C. asks from Pawhuska, OK
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Recently my 4 yr old daughter has begun talking back a lot, smarting off w/every response, refusing to pick up her toys, books, etc when I ask her to do so; I'm not saying she's a perfect child who does nothing wrong but she's nvr bn this harsh w/me when speaking to me, what cld it possibly be?!? Our routine hasn't changed, nothing new in her life, we've had a pretty good summer so far, what cld be making her act this way all of a sudden?!? Time out doesn't work at all anymore, I've tried taking her DS away for a day or not let her swim for a day but nothing seems to phase her! It's almost like she enjoys acting this way! This past week was awkward for her; one minute she wld be the most loving child you'd ever seen perfect in every way but then like a shot, she wld change drastically! I wld appreciate any & all advice you cld offer me all you MOMMIES out there!! Thank you!

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I just wanted to thank everyone for all the helpful advice concerning my daughter; it's great to hv a support system other than your family! What I mean by that statement is; sometimes your family will "sugar coat" the issue instead of seeking the best solution to the problem, your support system elsewhere can be as the "outside looking in", they wouldn't choose a side like your family tends to do. I'm going to evaluate her sleep patterns for a week; document her attitude during the day, I'm not changing our routine everyday life will pretty much remain as is. One of you made a good point when mentioning that kids rly wouldn't care if their "things" were taken away, my daughter just laughs when I do that or says, "I don't care, throw ALL my toys away"! I'll start putting all her things into a trash bag and walking it out to the dumpster, I actually thought when she saw I was serious her attitude wld change but that only lead to her screaming & yelling at me in front of our neighbors which I certainly didn't want! I hv to admit w/Summer comes a later bedtime, friends over being more frequent, sleepovers & playdates! I think more sleep may just be the answer to my prayers!! I kw when I am sleep deprived I'm not a Ray of sunshine either LOL!! All my worries = lack of sleep! Thanks again for ALL your useful tips ladies, I certainly appreciate it! I'll kp y'all updated w/her progress; us mommies hv to stick together!! Take care & god bless 

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J.S.

answers from Boston on

I have a three year old and she exhibits some of this as well. I have to say it correlates almost perfectly with the amount of sleep she gets. Our routine doesn't change, but the time she actually falls asleep (sometimes it's 8pm, sometimes it 8:30, sometimes 9, even if I put her in by 7:30) and wakes up from both her nap and nighttime sleep varies. The less sleep she has, the more ghastly her behavior, I call it the Jekyl and Hyde. It's seroiously like night and day. Maybe if you take a close look at her sleep patterns you will see the same thing. Try to get her as much sleep as possible, and as much activity in her awake time so that she's tired enough to go to sleep. The locking her in her room for the day suggestion isn't something I'd try, nor is pretending to cry suggestion, although I agree with letting her know that her behavior is unacceptable.

good luck.

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M.P.

answers from Portland on

My daughter was having this sort of behavior with her kids when the youngest was 4 or 5 and on the advice of a counselor began sending them to their room every time their tone of voice was disrespectful or they refused to do what she said. My daughter pretty much uses this as discipline for nearly everything and it works!

She had a talk with them and let them know this is what would happen. Then each time she would say something like this and then send (at first, take) them to their room. Go to your room until you can be respectful or until you can come back and pick up your toys or whatever. They were also to apologize.

They could do anything they wanted in their room. This gave them quiet time to calm down and to consider their next move. Every once in awhile one of them has fallen asleep. At first they would come out almost immediately but weren't ready to comply and so she'd send them back in.
After a few weeks the routine went smoothly. Every once in awhile, when they are angry one of them will put themselves in the room.

If they get busy playing, my daughter will go to them in about 5-10 minutes and ask if they're ready to come out yet. Usually they say yes, apologize and pick up their toys, etc.

I didn't think this would work but it's worked very well. For one thing, it stops the exchange before Mom gets frustrated and starts yelling. It also gives the child time to rethink what they know they should do. And...if they're mouthing off or not doing something because they're tired it gives them an opportunity to rest. And it's very easy to be consistent.

Being tired and hungry are frequent causes for misbehavior. I also offer a snack when I first notice one of them getting cranky. Sometimes that helps.

Your daughter could be testing you. It is possible that she is harsh and her behavior is increasing because she wants to see how far she can push you. She isn't thinking that she's testing. It's just what kids do.

She could also be cranky because she is needing closer boundaries. She needs you to immediately stop whatever negative is happening. I sometimes have difficulty trying to change the situation, expecting the kid to listen when I explain what is happening and asking them over and over to stop or to start.

I've finally learned that I need to say whatever I'm saying clearly and in just a few words. Explaining or cajoling does not help. I do repeat the request using the same words when it's possible they don't hear or understand. And when it's talking back I do give a warning because they aren't always aware of their tone of voice. Discipline is meant to teach and so they have to know why what they said is inappropriate. But if they argue it's straight to their room.

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D.W.

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I am so there with you. The previous poster mentioned sleep and I know that this is a factor with our daughter as well. On the other hand we know that we need to be consistent with her and follow through with the pre-warned consequences. If we do, the struggle seems to be still there to some degree, but less and the re-set is much easier for her. At day-care they started basically goal-setting with her. She would pick a word (fantastic) and be very keen on having a (fantastic) day all the way and receive lenty of praise along the way.
Hope this works itself out soon! : )

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M.B.

answers from New York on

Sounds like she is testing you. Does she go to preschool or anything during the year and now have the summer off? Kids in general don't seem to care about "things" being taken away, but maybe if you told her how dissappointed you were in her recent behavior (not in her) she might feel badly and go back to her "old" self. Kids are tough! Sometimes I even pretend to cry if my 3 yr old is getting a little out of hand and it's funny how suddenly concerned they become about your feelings. I don't know if this will work for you but it can't hurt to try. Good luck!

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S.S.

answers from Lawton on

My four year old is acting the same way. I think it's the age. Just keep consistent with your expectations.

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J.K.

answers from Phoenix on

I would correct her and remind her and discipline her when she acts this way. It will be easier to correct this now rather than later. It will only get worse. You can change her behavior, just be consistent

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C.M.

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You might also consider requiring a sincere apology and her acknowledgement of her bad behavior in addition to taking things away when she gets snippy with you. The next time she smarts off, tell her you have already warned her you do NOT accept being spoken to like that, then send her to a SUPER BORING place to think about her attitude (like on a chair in the dining room facing the wall) for 10 minutes and that you expect a meaningful apology when you come back for her. If she doesn't give you a real apology and detail for you EXACTLY why she was punished ("I spoke to mommy in a bad tone/was rude to mommy when I said...") then she goes back to the chair for 3 more minutes and she has to try again. This punishment is waaaaaaay worse for kids than losing a ds/swimming privelage for a day. Your daughter is challenging your authority (she threatened you that you could take all her toys away- she is telling you that you're not able to control her). Take away her independence (by forcing her to sit in a boring time out, making her verbally acknowledge her bad behavior as wrong) to remind her that you are in charge.

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